Have You Ridden with Florida's Real Touring Company?

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Joy Hancock: Okay.

Jim Dodson: Have you ridden with Florida's real bike tour company? Our guest this morning is Joy Hancock who is the executive director of Bike Florida. So, Joy, I know you've got an event coming up in Brooksville. Why don't you tell us about that event.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, the event is coming up. It's our 25th anniversary spring tour, and it is from March 28th through April 3rd of this year, and so we are going to be in the towns of Brooksville and Inverness, three days in each one. If you're interested, we're closing our online registration at the end of this week on March 15th, so if you wanna sign up, go to bikeflorida.org, and we'll have all the info there.

Jim Dodson: So, we wanna talk a little bit about what someone would expect on one of your tours. This is a little bit different format than some of your longer tours. You're doing three days in two different locations, and I know one of the things you talk about, in terms of touring Florida, is that you kind of get off the beaten path and see areas in the state that are somewhat less populated, less traveled, and some of the things that other people might not see when they ride.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, that's--

Jim Dodson: So, what can we expect up there?

Joy Hancock: Well, in Brooksville, Hernando County, it's known as the Adventure Coast. Our goal, yes, is to bring people from all over the country, all over the world to what is known as the real Florida. So, we go to state parks, we bring people on back country roads, and there may be a little bit of beach, but that's not really our main focus. Yeah, so, in Hernando County, we've got things like Weeki Wachee and the mermaids. Then we go to Inverness and Citrus County, which has the Withlacoochee Trail. So, we're really featuring these trails as well, but bringing people a little inland to see what all of that is like.

Jim Dodson: So, what is the proportion of people that you'd expect that are not local that would come on a tour such as this?

Joy Hancock: We usually get about 75 percent that are from out of state.

Jim Dodson: From out of state?

Joy Hancock: Mmm hmm, yeah.

Jim Dodson: Wow. Amazing. Alright, so, how many people can-- What's your expected attendance for this? Are you gonna limit it? Are you closing it out?

Joy Hancock: No, we usually not limit it, but 600 is about the most that we can handle, and so we're expecting between five and 600. We're definitely on gear for 500, and we never know who's going to come and show up on site.

Jim Dodson: Right. So, tell the person who's never been to one of your tours what to expect. Let's say they want to go to either the Brooksville portion for three days, or the Inverness portion, or maybe they wanna do both. What would they expect?

Joy Hancock: Well, they would expect to show up to a crazy campsite, wherever we chose. Usually it's a kind of downtown, or close to downtown. They would bring their bicycles, and bring their tent if they want to camp, and we do routes of different lengths each day, so we'll do, typically, a short, medium, and long ride. Usually we have a century in their somewhere, but we've got, at the campsite, we'll have food trucks and entertainment, and we've got this massive shower truck, and all sorts of fun things going on there. The routes are fully supported. We have food stations, and we also have law enforcement, and we have mechanics going up and down the route just to make sure everybody's safe and taken care of.

Jim Dodson: Wow, so if you-- What is the proportion of people that camp, versus people who really would rather stay in a hotel?

Joy Hancock: We have about 20 percent of people that stay in hotels, and we actually have a company that we work with that will transport you to and from the hotel in the morning and in the evening, and they'll also set up hotel arrangements for you.

Jim Dodson: I guess the advantage of this arrangement is you're doing kind of out and backs, so you start and stop in the same location, right?

Joy Hancock: Yes. We try to do loops, if at all possible. So, I think the majority of our rides this year are loops, and they're different everyday.

Jim Dodson: I know Hernando County has some hills.

Joy Hancock: Yes. Yeah, a lot of people, when they come to Florida to ride, think it's just gonna be flat, but when you go inland, it's a little bit different, and Hernando County definitely has some rollers.

Jim Dodson: Hey Susan. Susan's signing in, saying she tried to ride today, but way too windy. Hopefully you won't have to put up with that for three days when you're doing your event. In Hernando County they have a place called Tom Varn Park?

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: That's in Brooksville?

Joy Hancock: That is where we will be camping. It's kind of a weird thing. It's also a disc golf course, and where we're camping is around this old quarry building that was used a long time ago for trains. It's a huge park, and it's beautiful, and, yeah, it's going to be a great campsite.

Jim Dodson: You and I talked previously, and kind of thinking about what we were gonna do today, and I know you pointed out that for people from out of state, this is a really attractive destination because Florida's probably one of the warmest places in the lower 48 in March and April.

Joy Hancock: Yes. Yes, absolutely. If any of you are aware of the weather elsewhere, right now definitely Florida is the warmest place to be. There are lots of cross-state rides, or multi-day rides, around the country, and our ride is considered the warm-up ride that people come to. They get their bikes out of the garage, and dust them off, and come and ride with us.

Jim Dodson: Yeah, super. Yeah, Sue has a question as to whether travel trailers are allowed.

Joy Hancock: Yes, they are allowed. We have a special parking area for R.V.s and travel trailers, so you can absolutely bring them.

Jim Dodson: So, what will happen is, everyone will set up in Brooksville, if you go to the six day event, they'll all set up in Brooksville.

Joy Hancock: Yep.

Jim Dodson: What happens? How are they gonna get from Brooksville to Inverness? I know it's only, probably, what, 25 or 30 miles apart?

Joy Hancock: Yeah, the vast majority will drive to the next spot, and the advantage of that is that you will have access to your car to go around and check things out if you want to. There is an option to ride from one site to the other on the Withlacoochee Trail, but then you have the issue of transporting your luggage. There is a service that we provide for a bit extra, where there's a company that will transport your luggage from Brooksville to Inverness.

Jim Dodson: Okay. For those of you that have not been on the Withlacoochee Trail, it is really a gem.

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: It has real fixed bathrooms periodically, it's got water periodically, and, honestly, it's not as important right now, but as you get into the year, if you go out there in the morning, before noon, or the afternoon, it's shaded. 90 percent of the way, it's shaded.

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: It's an amazing place to ride.

Joy Hancock: You know what's interesting, Jim, is when we set up this route, we specifically could not go on the Withlacoochee on a Saturday, because there are so many people that use it on this day, that we had to go during a week day, which I think is pretty cool.

Jim Dodson: Pretty amazing, yeah. You go out there on a Saturday, you'll see a lot of riders.

Joy Hancock: Oh yeah.

Jim Dodson: You have an opportunity, honestly, in the Withlacoochee to see a lot of the stuff, I was born in Florida, so I've seen a lot of wildlife in my time, but you'll see almost anything. It's safe, but you'll see almost anything near, or sometimes running across the trail well ahead of you.

Joy Hancock: Absolutely.

Jim Dodson: It's an interesting place to ride.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, yeah.

Jim Dodson: Yeah. So, if I'm coming up there, and I'm gonna camp, let's say, how much of the food would you prepare or provide, and how much am I gonna be doing on my own for the usual meals?

Joy Hancock: Yeah, so there's an optional breakfast plan you can do. You can either do it ala cart, or you can purchase a whole week, or just a three day meal plan, and we have options of just a cold breakfast, if you just wanna grab some bagels, and some coffee, and go, or if you want a full hot breakfast, we've got that too. In the afternoons and evenings, we'll have food trucks on site that you can purchase food from. We sell some snacks at our hospitality tent, but other than that you are on your own, which again, is a benefit of having your car with you, 'cause you could go and get to places to eat.

Jim Dodson: I know you have activities involved in the evening. Give us an idea of what that would be.

Joy Hancock: Okay. We've got all sorts of fun things. Because it's our 25th anniversary, we are going to have one evening devoted to that, and after the rider meeting and entertainment, we are going to have a reception where we'll be looking at old scrapbooks and reminiscing about the last 25 years. Probably the most anticipated thing at our spring tour is the talent show. We have had everything from original songs, to belly dancing, to comedic acts, and tap dancing, clog dancing, all sorts of crazy stuff. So anything and everything goes for the talent show, and it is a hotly-- You know, people really, really, really compete for this. So, that's going to be on the 31st, our last night that we're in Brooksville. In Inverness, our last night of the whole event, we are taking everyone out to a resort restaurant called The Cove, and they are providing a barbecue dinner. You need to pay for it, but there's going to be barbecue out there, beer, drinks, there's going to be a live band, and there is going to be a dunk tank. So, this is a new development. If you wanna get the Bike Florida staff, you know, take some revenge. So, yeah, we'll be doing some dunk tank.

Jim Dodson: David Lancaster's signing in, saying, "Never fear, the Bike SAG will be there."

Joy Hancock: Yes, Dave is one of my friends. I absolutely love Dave, and he does SAG support on almost every single ride of ours, I can't think of a better mechanic to have out there for you.

Jim Dodson: Awesome. Thank you. He also said something about bowl music, as well. Do you know what he means?

Joy Hancock: I don't know what he means by bowl-- Ah, yes! He's talking about our talent show. There was a guy who actually won the whole thing. He did this thing called bowl singing. It was very strange, and I can't really describe it, you just have to see it.

Jim Dodson: Okay, inside information.

Joy Hancock: Yeah.

Jim Dodson: What does it cost to go on the six day, and what do you do if you wanna do segments, like the three day one or the other?

Joy Hancock: So, if you sign up online, which, online registration closes on the 15th, then it's $450 dollars for the full week, and I believe $225 for the half week. If you wait to get on site though, because after online registration closes, it'll be closed, but when the ride starts, you can come on site, and you can still sign up, but it is more expensive. So, I think the week long goes from $450 to $500, so if you wanna save a bit of money, it definitely is good for you to sign up by the 15th.

Jim Dodson: We'll make sure everybody gets that in.

Joy Hancock: Yeah.

Jim Dodson: So, is there anything else you want to add about the six day event that's coming up at the end of this month?

Joy Hancock: Well, one of the big things that really is important to us, is our economic impact, during these tours. So, we have tons of fun, we are facilitating all sorts of fun at our campsite, but one of our main goals is to bring in as many local businesses as possible. So, all our caterers, all of our food trucks, those are local businesses. We also really want our participants to go out and spend money in the town, go to the shops, go to the restaurants, because our goal is really to have a massive economic impact to improve those communities' economic health.

Jim Dodson: What are the demographics of most of the people that are involved in this type of an event through you?

Joy Hancock: Well, people are typically surprised, 'cause you would think that it's all younger people, but our median age is 64, so most of our participants are Baby Boomers, and it's almost an even split between men and women.

Jim Dodson: Okay. What is the couples and singles thing? I mean, is it a couples event, or if I'm a single person would I feel comfortable there?

Joy Hancock: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Couple or no couple, you'll make a gazillion friends while you're there, and there have actually been quite a few people that have met on one of these tours, and then gotten married later.

Jim Dodson: I knew that was coming.

Joy Hancock: Yeah.

Jim Dodson: I know that a lot of people that live up north really do look forward. They do this, and they do the bike safari, which is the following week up at Lake City.

Joy Hancock: Yep, yeah.

Jim Dodson: So, Joy, let's switch gears a minute. So, there's one other event that you do, that I was not familiar with, which is your small group tour. Why don't you talk about that, and what the plans are for this year. It's a totally different environment than what you just described. 'Cause this is a luxury tour, a small, limited number of people.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, our small group tours, or you could call them luxury tours. Those are end to end, all inclusive, maximum of 20 people. The whole point is really to just have fun, and have a vacation. So, there is some bike riding thrown in, but you ride as little, or as much as you want to, but most of our routes are short. Say, you know, 30 to 50 miles, and some days it may even be just 20. We have a lot of different abilities come on these rides. We've had a few people who have just started riding a bike come on these rides. So, you don't have to be a mileage junkie, or very experienced, because we will take care of you. We had planned, actually, and I didn't tell you this earlier, Jim, but we had planned to have our next small group tour in the, what we call, the Forgotten Coast area. So, Apalachicola, Port St. Joe, which was going to be in November, and we had to cancel it last year because of the hurricane, but we have been talking with those communities, and those places that we work with out there, and they are still, unfortunately, not open for business, so we are looking at some other ideas for a small group tour that we can do in November. It will be sometime in November, and we will let everyone know as soon as we've got that figured out.

Jim Dodson: So, I know this is more expensive. What's the cost for this?

Joy Hancock: It's about $2,500 dollars, is what it is.

Jim Dodson: Per person?

Joy Hancock: The thing is, is that when you go on one of these, you don't have to worry about anything. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner-- Well, breakfast and dinner, especially, are always at nice restaurants, and for lunch we usually do, like, a picnic lunch, somewhere about midway through the ride. Yeah, so, all you'd have to do-- Oh, there's a daily happy hour, so at about four o'clock everyday, we've got free wine and beer. If you like a more intimate experience while you're riding, it's the perfect thing to do. You don't have to be in a couple. Couples do come, but singles come as well. It really is, it's a really fun time.

Jim Dodson: So, this is a different group, as well. This is more Floridians than out of state people, right?

Joy Hancock: Yes. Yeah, the majority that come on these rides are Floridians, which always surprises us, but yeah, that's the majority.

Jim Dodson: We were talking the other day about you starting to see E-bikes show up at some of these events, and I think that you had someone that came on this event last year with an E-bike for the first time, right?

Joy Hancock: Yeah, actually, my mom came on one of our small group tours, and there was another lady, and my mom had just had knee surgery, and this other woman was just a beginner, so they very anxious about riding on their own bicycles, so yeah, they rented E-bikes, and they were like beach cruiser E-bikes, and they both had so much fun. They kept up with the group. I think they were very apprehensive about that. Another thing, which I forgot to mention, about our small group tours, is, we do have ride leaders who go out. So, there's a staff person who will be riding a little bit faster. When I say fast, we're doing maybe 15 miles an hour. Then there will be the slower group, and they're probably going about 10. So, you can go at whatever pace you want, and know that there will be someone there taking care of you.

Jim Dodson: I don't know if you mentioned it or not, this is really considered a luxury.

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: I mean, you're staying at nice places.

Joy Hancock: You're staying at nice hotels, and we transport all your luggage. When you go to a new hotel, we actually put your luggage in your room for you. It really is, like, it's a very nice experience. The staff have just as much fun as the riders. We usually have about a, I would say, a two to one ratio of participant per staff person. Either two or three to one. Yeah.

Jim Dodson: Almost like taking a cruise.

Joy Hancock: It is. It's like a cruise, but on a bicycle. It's exactly like that, and more fun.

Jim Dodson: Jerry Musial just checked in. Hey, Jerry. Just glad to see you join us today. So, is there anything else, Joy, you wanna add, about the small group tour? I know we'll look for details as they develop.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, just look for details, and, you know, I can guarantee that the one that we'll be putting together will be great. We've got a really cool idea and concept put together, but I don't want to put the cart before the horse, so I'll hold off on making that announcement until we're definitely a go on that.

Jim Dodson: Okay. Well, you know, maybe we'll do a follow-up visit with you one day, and talk about that for the fall.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, that would be great.

Jim Dodson: Let me switch gears here for a minute here. I just hope you're enjoying the program. I wanted to relate to you a little. Something that occurred this week-- You know, we have a lot of people who call our office, who are not really ready to make a decision about whether they need a lawyer, whether they should have a lawyer, they have a lot of questions. Some people aren't gonna pick up the phone immediately after a bike crash, or any type of an injury, and just call a lawyer immediately, but I had a conversation with someone who was inquiring, and they were really trying to make a decision about what to do. Even people with serious injuries sometimes will, you know, kind of think about what you do first. It's interesting, the teaching point I wanna tell you is that this person had been contacted repeatedly by a claims adjuster. The adjuster was just calling, not announcing who they were, not announcing who they work for. They were working for the driver who caused the crash. The person they were talking to had suffered a concussion, and really wasn't thinking clearly. The spouse was trying to discourage this person from talking on the phone with the adjuster. The adjuster would just call at random times and say, "Hey, it's Tom," you know. "How you doing today?" I just point that out because, you know, it's not unusual for claims adjusters to go to lengths to try to get information that might help them minimize the claim by looking for things that people say today, that upon reflection, probably didn't truly reflect what they were feeling or experiencing at the time. The advantage of having a lawyer involved, is that as soon as the lawyer's letter of representation gets to that claim adjuster, they can no longer call you. So, it's a great relief to a lot of people to know that they can be relieved of that burden. If they can retain a lawyer, they're gonna be represented, and not have any further calls from the adjuster. So, if you know somebody that's had this experience, somebody that's had a crash, has a question, they've been in a car accident, they've been in a bike crash, just call. We're a phone call away. We've got a passion for helping cyclists, and helping them in any situation. So, anytime we can help you, we're here to do that. So, Joy, I wanna switch gears with you here a little bit. Tell me a little bit about you, and how long you've been with Bike Florida, and kind of the mission of Bike Florida.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, so, I have been with Bike Florida since 2014. So, prior to that, I was working for a similar organization in Oklahoma, which is where I'm from. So, in, I believe it was 2016, I went from working with the tours, to being the executive director, and we have recently gone through a major strategic plan. Our vision at Bike Florida, is a Florida as the premier cycling experience, and so our first mission, relating to that, is to help Florida communities improve their economic health, bicycle infrastructure, and safety, through bicycle tourism. The concept behind that is, more and more Florida communities are starting to drink the Kool-aid about bicycle tourism, especially in regards to the coast to coast trail connector, and the development of trails. I know there's a big debate between cyclists between road versus trail, and I'm about both, but when you have beginners, when you get younger kids, families, they're definitely going to be on trails, rather than on roads, and when this trail will be completed, there will be an opportunity for someone to ride from St. Petersburg, all the way to Titusville, and they can stay in hotels on the way. I live near Dunedin, and there's actually a Holiday Inn that just backs straight up onto the Pinellas Trail. So, a lot of the towns, and our host communities that we reach out to, they are all about us coming, because they know that we will have this major economic impact. So these towns, then, will be pushing their city councils, their county, their representatives, to give them more funding, to be able to build safer, and more enjoyable facilities for cyclists. So, it's kind of a nice thing. The tourists benefit, and the towns benefit, and it's happiness for everyone.

Jim Dodson: Yeah, so, I guess the gold standard so far, from my knowledge, has been Dunedin and Winter Garden.

Joy Hancock: Mmm hmm.

Jim Dodson: Titusville, right?

Joy Hancock: Titusville, yep. Inverness, as well, I think, I believe, has just gotten a trail town designation.

Jim Dodson: Right. So, you're talking primarily about the coast to coast connector, which goes from St. Petersburg to Titusville, and a large portion of that is going to be completed next year. There's still gonna be some gaps. It will be a couple of years before it's done. That's gonna be over 250 miles, I think.

Joy Hancock: Yeah.

Jim Dodson: There's a lot of other trail construction going on.

Joy Hancock: Mmm hmm.

Jim Dodson: I think that the master plan is for us to have 2,000 miles of trail in the next 10 to 15 years.

Joy Hancock: Yeah.

Jim Dodson: It's gonna be wonderful.

Joy Hancock: It's crazy, a couple weeks ago, I was at the St. John's River-to-Sea Loop trail stakeholder's workshop, and it was amazing, but I believe most of that trail has been completed, and any native Floridians, if you want to go out there, Palatka, Hastings, all around that area, it's a gorgeous trail. We have based many of our tours around there, and you get to see some great places, and you get to ride along the A1A, so I cannot recommend that enough.

Jim Dodson: You and I were talking the other day, and you mentioned Key West.

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: Now, what were you referring about Key West? Why you were watching it?

Joy Hancock: Yeah, so, a few years ago, we gave them a grant to develop a bicycling master plan, and we are definitely keeping an eye on them, because they've got this plan to just really transform the town, and we're actually hoping to put on a tour there, or a small group tour there in the future, but their slogan, or their program is called, Lose the Keys, Find Key West. Basically, they've got a place where you can just leave your car when you come in, and you just take the bus into town, there's free transit, and you can have all the fun you want, without having to worry about a car.

Jim Dodson: That's amazing.

Joy Hancock: It's been a very successful program.

Jim Dodson: That's amazing.

Joy Hancock: Yeah.

Jim Dodson: So, you and I didn't talk about this. There's two major bicycle organizations in Florida, which would be the Florida Bicycle Association, and Bike Florida, but they don't have the same mission, they don't do the same things. You don't have memberships. You don't have people that join you for annual memberships like the FBA does.

Joy Hancock: Right.

Jim Dodson: The two are connected in an unusual way because of the I Bike tag program, right?

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: So, one of the ways that Bike Florida is funded, and the Florida Bike Association is funded, is through the tag program.

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: Right?

Joy Hancock: So, we kind of consider ourselves sister organizations. So, the FBA does more grassroots work with individual clubs and advocacy, and, yeah, we do the tourist side to bring in, as we've talked about before, more of Florida's communities to get on board. The Share the Road license plate is the perfect way for you to show off that you support cycling, and then, it's also a way to actually support cycling with a donation. So, it's a specialty license plate. It is not that expensive to get, and if you go to sharetheroad.org, you can find out all that there is about how to get the plates, but it is a very important part of us being able to keep the doors open.

Jim Dodson: Right, and for both organizations, quite frankly.

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: You basically share the fees.

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: So, what's the other way that you actually make money? You have the tag, and then, how else are you supported?

Joy Hancock: Well, one of our things is, we try to make our events and tours as inexpensive as possible. You wouldn't think, for example, that a luxury tour at $2,500 dollars is expensive, but if you look at similar touring companies, they're more like $3,500, $5,000, So, as a non-profit, we do whatever we can to minimize the expense for the participant. However, we are dependent on participant fees, and we do actually have some partners that we've been working with. Alert Today Florida has been a huge help, and we're starting to work with other state-wide organizations, but really the tag is the thing that enables us to be able to put on these tours at such a low cost. At our organization, we only have two full-time employees, and we depend on lots of volunteers. I believe that the FBA is very similar, and so it's an easy way to-- The plate is a very easy way to support both organizations, as well as show that you support safe cycling in Florida.

Jim Dodson: I think it's something that's very important to both organizations. I have the tag on my car. Every place you go, it just reminds people that cyclists are on the road.

Joy Hancock: Yes.

Jim Dodson: I think it's an important message for us all to be spreading.

Joy Hancock: Absolutely.

Jim Dodson: Yeah. You've got a unique situation, because your husband was a professional cyclist.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, a professional triathlete.

Jim Dodson: Yeah.

Joy Hancock: Yeah.

Jim Dodson: So, that's got to be quite of a unique occupation.

Joy Hancock: Yes, it was. A lot of time for training, and also a lot of travel. A lot of travel with bicycles. Which, that's not fun, but, I mean, and obviously, with all the training, a lot of time on roads.

Jim Dodson: Right. One of the things you mentioned just a few minutes ago was people moving to trails.

Joy Hancock: Mmm hmm.

Jim Dodson: You know, the number of tragedies we've had in Florida this last year, if you look at the conversations that are going on online after a tragedy like that occurs, like any of them have been, more and more people are opting for I'm gonna be riding gravel, I'm gonna be riding trails. I mean, I think that these events sometimes really alert us that there's other opportunities than being on the road. I tend to ride on the road 90 percent of the time, myself.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, yeah.

Jim Dodson: I think that the opportunity to have meaningful riding opportunities in Florida is just increasing every day that goes by.

Joy Hancock: Yep.

Jim Dodson: You can have serious, safe, fun, fast riding, not on the road.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, but Jim, like you, both myself and my husband, we are primarily road riders, and I think one of the problems some people have with trails is that they think, well, cyclists should just stay on the trails, but we are still a vehicle that has every right to be on the road as a car, and so I don't think that we should, well, yeah, the trails are crucial in so many ways, but also, you know, keeping better education and laws for cyclists and for motorists are also key in improving the state of cycling in Florida.

Jim Dodson: So, Joy, is there anything else you want to add to our listeners today about Bike Florida, or your up-coming events?

Joy Hancock: No, just to go to our website, and you can sign up for our newsletter, and we're also on Facebook, and Instagram, and Twitter, all those things. So, yeah, we would love to hear from you, and if you've got any questions, you can email us at info@bikeflorida.org, and we'll get back to you. Come and check out our ride in Brooksville and Inverness, and if you don't sign up ahead of time, you can just come on site, and we would love to see you.

Jim Dodson: Alright, terrific. Joy, you've been a great guest. I appreciate you.

Joy Hancock: Yeah, well, thank you, Jim, this was great.

Jim Dodson: I appreciate the work that you do for cycling in Florida.

Joy Hancock: You too.

Jim Dodson: Thank you very much.

Joy Hancock: Okay.

Jim Dodson: Take care, have a great day.

Joy Hancock: You too.

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